Stone Money- Bloguser246

Existing Through Money

Money is the heart of our daily lives, even though we do not usually portray it that way. As civilization grew, our need for a stable and convenient economy did as well. All over the world people knew that we would need something that everyone would value enough to buy and sell goods. Whether we are from the United using the dollar bill or from the island of Yap using Fei, the value we put behind these items has built our economy drastically. The value we put towards our daily earnings is the prime reason jobs a done; no person in their right mind would do any work unless there was compensation that would end up in their bank account. Iris Glass in, This American Life, said money is simply fiction, we assume it is there when it never really existed in the first place. Money is so abstract that we do not even need to see money to believe it is there, our bank account numbers changing is just enough evidence.

Imagine a young boy on his birthday opening his birthday presents, so excited he has just received the new Lego set he has been wanting, and then the next gift he opens is a card with a fifty-dollar Visa gift card in it. The child is just as excited because he just sees a piece of plastic with a fifty-dollar value on the face of it. Though the child does not see the physical money that the gift card holds, he understands that it is a form of money that could buy him more Lego sets. How do we really know physical money is being used to purchase the gift card if it was just purchased with another credit card? We do not know; all we see is a value number that we decide is enough to make purchases.

On the island of Yap, one of the islands off the West Pacific Coast, lived the Yapese people. These people were building a place where they wanted people to live and trade and eventually realized that a monetary system everyone valued was necessary in order for the island to bloom into an economy. Most other places around the world decided on cash currency and bank accounts to be the way of transporting money, but the Yapese people decided to use stone money instead. On Jacob Goldstein’s podcast, “The Island of Stone Money,” he talked about Yapese crew workers that had to travel far off their island in order to access the materials that created these discs, limestone. The limestone was only located hundreds of miles away from their island that work crews would have to sail to get them, so they decided it was the best way to make money. You are thinking that it is ridiculous people gave big pieces of stone any value, but it is not too different than the United States economy if you think about it.

As the United States developed, we have moved from using gold, to cash, to checks and bank accounts more than any other form of payment. The numbers we are so eager to see change at the end of the demanding work week are simply just notetaking that you have earned money. How do we value these numbers if we have never even seen them in the form of cash currency? How do we value something that might not even exist? No one has the answer to these questions because the only thing that really matters is that everyone agreed on this method of payment that works best for us if we are getting transferable money. This also goes for the Yapese people all agreeing that the limestone discs would work best for them, because of the value they gave it.

When in the process of the United States changing the active currency from gold to cash, the bank of France was concerned. In the text, “The Island of Stone Money,” Milton Friedman explained that the New York bank switching around few labels in a basement that put the gold under the bank of France’s ownership. The bank of France just trusted that this gold was real and that the bank of New York gave them the ownership with word of mouth. This made the people in the United States believe that the French Franc was worth more than the United States dollar. They reacted this way because people in the U.S. did not agree that the dollar bill was being valued as highly as the gold France had “taken” from us, even though it was. Eventually, the people in the United States agreed that the money could be worth the amount of gold when they were able to make the same purchases with using cash currency.

Something more modern that follows a similar outline as bank accounts is e-currency Bitcoin. Often, people wonder bitcoins’ worth and question how people can use this as a form of payment when you cannot even see it. Bitcoin is just as valuable as cash money and gold, but the difference is it is all digital. Matthew Sparks in, “What is bitcoin and how does it work,” describes that bitcoins can convert to cash like any other asset, but how do we get cash from digital currencies? People who take part in this digital wallet trust that their bitcoins are worth cash currency if they decide to convert it, even though they only see numbers change on a screen. These people just trust that the system works and that this e-currency will turn into cash.

In the end, people can give anything value if they believe it does, like the child with his Lego set, Yapese people with their Fei, or e-currency users with bitcoin. Money is so abstract that no one questions if money is even real, we just use it every day. No matter what the items are that have maintained value, these items have built a diverse number of economies all over the world. Our dependence on currency has grown to such an enormous extent that no one actually notices if it is real or not. As long as people are receiving their payments for the work they do, I do not think they will be asking questions about their money anytime soon.

References

Iris Glass: The Invention of Money. (2017, December 14). This American Life. 423: The Invention of Money (thisamericanlife.org)

Sparkes, M. (2021). What is bitcoin and how does it work? New Scientist. https://www.newscientist.com/definition/bitcoin/

Friedman, Milton. The Island of Stone Money. (1991, February). Hoover Institution. stonemoneyessay.pdf (wordpress.com)

Goldstein, Jacob and Kestenbaum, David, directors. NPR, NPR, 10 Dec. 2010, The Island Of Stone Money : Planet Money : NPR.

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2 Responses to Stone Money- Bloguser246

  1. davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

    Thanks for posting early, BlogUser. I hope the feedback I offer you here will help both you and your classmates who might be reading along. We won’t have time to do feedback for EVERYTHING on this first pass. Let’s concentrate on Argument first. In future sessions, if you request more advice, we can focus on Rhetoric, Mechanics, and Scholarship. Ready?

    P1. Money is the heart of our daily lives, even though we do not usually portray it that way. As civilization grew, our need for a stable and convenient economy did as well. All over the world people knew that we would need something that everyone would value enough to buy and sell goods. Whether we are from the United using the dollar bill or from the island of Yap using Fei, the value we put behind these items has built our economy drastically.

    This is a reasonably strong opening technique. If “why we have money” is a primary theme of your essay, this will serve your argument well.

    The value we put towards our daily earnings is the prime reason jobs a done; no person in their right mind would do any work unless there was compensation that would end up in their bank account.

    Here you’re advancing the idea of “why” we have money: to track the credit we earn by working. Your “no person in their right mind” is rhetorically distracting. Plus: people DO work for nothing all the time, at their hobbies, to volunteer, to maintain their homes, to cook for their families, so . . . .

    Iris Glass in, This American Life, said money is simply fiction, we assume it is there when it never really existed in the first place. Money is so abstract that we do not even need to see money to believe it is there, our bank account numbers changing is just enough evidence.

    This comes completely out of nowhere. Your introduction doesn’t prepare us for the claim, it seems unrelated to what you’ve said so far, and it doesn’t transition to what follows. Needs work.

    P2. Imagine a young boy on his birthday opening his birthday presents, so excited he has just received the new Lego set he has been wanting, and then the next gift he opens is a card with a fifty-dollar Visa gift card in it. The child is just as excited because he just sees a piece of plastic with a fifty-dollar value on the face of it. Though the child does not see the physical money that the gift card holds, he understands that it is a form of money that could buy him more Lego sets.

    Physical, tangible anecdotes and examples such as your Lego story are very useful for illustrating abstract concepts, but they have to be well chosen to be truly effective. A better example here might be to point out how nicely money works as a gift VERSUS giving an object. If they child had received a football, he might be wondering whether he could exchange it for Lego or return it to the store for credit he could then use to buy Lego. The beauty of the gift card is that it’s ANOTHER FORM OF CURRENCY, like dollars, that can be spent on anything.

    How do we really know physical money is being used to purchase the gift card if it was just purchased with another credit card? We do not know; all we see is a value number that we decide is enough to make purchases.

    I don’t see the point of wondering whether the gift card was purchased with currency. But it MIGHT be instructive to note that if it was sent from relatives in Israel, say, it might have been purchased in shekels, but can be redeemed in dollars.

    On the island of Yap, one of the islands off the West Pacific Coast,

    WAAAAYYYY off the coast. What’s it matter where? A Pacific island.

    lived the Yapese people. These people were building a place where they wanted people to live and trade and eventually realized that a monetary system everyone valued was necessary in order for the island to bloom into an economy.

    You’ve already claimed in your Introduction that the need to develop currency is universal; you don’t need to belabor that here.

    Most other places around the world decided on cash currency and bank accounts to be the way of transporting money, but the Yapese people decided to use stone money instead.

    More wordiness. If you DO spend time comparing currencies and the fact that they can interact to create buying power across cultures, it might be illustrative to spend a few sentences on how the Yap, as remote as they were, didn’t have to concern themselves with other currencies. Theirs could be as unique as massive stone disks.

    On Jacob Goldstein’s podcast, “The Island of Stone Money,” he talked about Yapese crew workers that had to travel far off their island in order to access the materials that created these discs, limestone. The limestone was only located hundreds of miles away from their island that work crews would have to sail to get them, so they decided it was the best way to make money. You are thinking that it is ridiculous people gave big pieces of stone any value, but it is not too different than the United States economy if you think about it.

    It may be just like the US economy, but you can’t just say so, BlogUser. We need your explanation WHILE you’re making your claim or immediately after. DON’T string us along. I’m going to hold my breath. Tell me how our currency is like massive stone disks before I have to breathe.

  2. davidbdale's avatar davidbdale says:

    As the United States developed, we have moved from using gold, to cash, to checks and bank accounts more than any other form of payment. The numbers we are so eager to see change at the end of the demanding work week are simply just notetaking that you have earned money. How do we value these numbers if we have never even seen them in the form of cash currency? How do we value something that might not even exist? No one has the answer to these questions because the only thing that really matters is that everyone agreed on this method of payment that works best for us if we are getting transferable money. This also goes for the Yapese people all agreeing that the limestone discs would work best for them, because of the value they gave it.

    I passed out waiting for your explanation. You took me through a paragraph of details to get to the last, but “limestone discs work for them” is not a satisfying similarity to “we chose gold, then paper, then checks, then digital record-keeping.” The Yap chose limestone because it was remote and expensive to produce. Did we choose linen, or credit cards, or online accounts for similar reasons? You DO make a comparison (in passing) that is more satisfying when you ask about the big stone at the bottom of the sea that nobody has ever seen. THAT is very much like our bank accounts, which are equally invisible but taken on faith.

    When in the process of the United States changing the active currency from gold to cash, the bank of France was concerned.

    Remember, BlogUser, your READER is not a member of this class and has not listened to the podcast you listened to. She has NO IDEA why France should care about the US moving away from the Gold Standard.

    In the text, “The Island of Stone Money,” Milton Friedman explained that the New York bank switching around few labels in a basement that put the gold under the bank of France’s ownership.

    This is not a complete sentence, AND it doesn’t help your READER understand that labeling that gold with a France label was our way of “paying” France what we owed it.

    The bank of France just trusted that this gold was real and that the bank of New York gave them the ownership with word of mouth.

    Your earlier comparisons were about the ways currencies can interact by finding a common medium of exchange. This one is different, right? It’s about France DIS-trusting our currency and wanting something more trustworthy.

    This made the people in the United States believe that the French Franc was worth more than the United States dollar.

    Well . . . . Not quite. It did worry some observers that the US had “impoverished itself” to the tune of a lot of gold. France was enriched by the same amount, but that doesn’t make the franc a more valuable currency.

    They reacted this way because people in the U.S. did not agree that the dollar bill was being valued as highly as the gold France had “taken” from us, even though it was. Eventually, the people in the United States agreed that the money could be worth the amount of gold when they were able to make the same purchases with using cash currency.

    Pretty complicated. I’m having trouble following the twists and turns. For me, the moral of the French labels tale is that Physical Ownership of the gold was really important to the French, but even they were OK not “touching” the gold. They were satisfied that it was “in their account” in the US. Money gets pretty abstract when you don’t have to carry a pouch of gold coins to be wealthy.

    Something more modern that follows a similar outline as bank accounts is e-currency Bitcoin. Often, people wonder bitcoins’ worth and question how people can use this as a form of payment when you cannot even see it. Bitcoin is just as valuable as cash money and gold, but the difference is it is all digital. Matthew Sparks in, “What is bitcoin and how does it work,” describes that bitcoins can convert to cash like any other asset, but how do we get cash from digital currencies? People who take part in this digital wallet trust that their bitcoins are worth cash currency if they decide to convert it, even though they only see numbers change on a screen. These people just trust that the system works and that this e-currency will turn into cash.

    Is that the difference for you, BlogUser? You’ve spent several paragraphs relating the details of how money is “made,” but you neglect that difference here. Gold and limestone have to be mined. Paper money used to be “backed” by gold. Then the US government simply “vouched for” money. Who vouches for Bitcoin? “Fiat money” has always had a government sponsor. Bitcoin doesn’t.

    In the end, people can give anything value if they believe it does, like the child with his Lego set, Yapese people with their Fei, or e-currency users with bitcoin.

    Sort of. I can’t give MY Legos value, but other people can value them enough to trade me a pony for my collection. I can’t give my limestone disk or my stack of 100s value, but if OTHERS are willing to give me goods and services in exchange for them, THEY give my money its value. If I don’t want your Bitcoin, you can’t use it to buy stuff from me.

    Money is so abstract that no one questions if money is even real, we just use it every day. No matter what the items are that have maintained value, these items have built a diverse number of economies all over the world. Our dependence on currency has grown to such an enormous extent that no one actually notices if it is real or not.

    Our dependence on money makes it invisible? Or do you mean (like the fish in the first-day-of-class anecdote) we swim so thoughtlessly in the sea of commerce we don’t even notice that our money is the medium we’re in?

    As long as people are receiving their payments for the work they do, I do not think they will be asking questions about their money anytime soon.

    I think you mean, “As long as we can get donuts by swiping or tapping or waving our cards at the bakery store checkout counter, we won’t be asking questions . . . . ”

    There’s good writing all through your essay, BlogUser, and a really good one here in early draft form, ready for revisions. You’re under no obligation to rewrite this particular assignment, but you’re permitted and encouraged to do so, and further feedback is always available (following significant revisions).

    Your preliminary grade reflects how well you met the requirements for a first draft on this assignment. You may certainly improve it with revisions if you wish.

    Graded. Thanks again.

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