Wake up
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Riddle: Just Passed Scenic Views
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Visual Rewrite: Student Model
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Visual Analysis of a Complete Argument
A Sample Analysis: Thai Life Insurance
Here we examine just 10 seconds of a 2-minute long-form commercial produced by the Thai Life Insurance company to promote the universal human good of doing small selfless gestures for others. How in the world is that supposed to sell life insurance?
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How Much (What Kind of) Detail?
- You may not need this yet, but when you’re ready to revise your Visual Rhetoric argument, you may benefit from reviewing feedback I have offered to students in earlier semesters.
- Link to Revision Advice for Visual Rhetoric
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The Opposite of a Black Sneaker
Counterintuitive Fall 2024 
Class Notes – 10/28
Your best Notes in awhile
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Class Notes 10.28.24
Very nice
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Class Notes – phoenixxxx23
-It is ALL about perspective!
-Lots of concepts do not exist until we put them together
-Make sure your readers see your personal perspective
–We do not want new information and perspective because they are part of our identity and we put a lot of energy in developing them.
-Make sure your readers know the context first before providing statistics
-Add more detail!
-Concentrate on the Rhetoric half
-The visual and the analysis are inseparable
-Ideas do not fall alonf a line, they are located somewhere on the edge of the circle
-Do not think that grey is what you want in your writing, go for opposites
-The opposite of white sneaker is brocolli
-Never start with grey
-NO GREY! Ever!
No GREY! 🙂
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Creating an argument is like the constellations of the stars above like scatters dots that needs to be connected to each other. The writers jobs is to connect the dots to guide, and show their readers to see the connections from the writers point of view.
When have a piece of evidence that says it all is that it depends on where you put it in your paragraphs. Make sure your readers have the context first before putting in evidence to support your argument.
For the visual analysis assignment is by adding more details to certain scenes of the video. Also explaining not just the visual aspect but how those details imposed in the scene. We have a choice of at least a thirty second video in the link that is provided for the assignment. IF one is not satisfied with the grade, you can now explain the dialog or soundtrack elements that influence the reactions to the argument.
Arguments usually don’t have one sided opinion. Choose either side of the argument, and not in between of both parties. Being on the gray area of choosing side wouldn’t capture your audience attention. One side would inevitably loses in a black and white argument.
This is probably worth 4, but the claims are unclear.
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Class notes – figure8clementine
10/28/24
Very thoughtful
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Class Notes: 10/28/24
-Orion Constellation: Orion does not exist, it’s just a perspective from where we are standing. If we were at any other perspective we would not see this constellation, but instead there would be a new one. All in all, a lot of concepts don’t exist unless we put them together. We are the ones to describe the world and make relationships within it; all of this correlates to our writings as well.
-When we have an important fact or evidence, we have a choice of where to put it. With that being said, we want to put it in our text so that our audience sees everything from our perspective.
-Just Passed Scenic Views Riddle: The purpose of our writing is to explain and to lead our audience to what we want them to believe. We don’t want them to guess and interpret things on their own because that will allow them to come up with their own interpretation of our writing.
-Put statistics into concepts first and then they will have value when the audience reads them.
-Opposite of a Black Sneaker: When trying to decide where we are in the argument spectrum, don’t focus on one thing or the opposite. There is no opposite to what we are writing and we definitely should not look in the middle; gray. Looking at the gray will take our writing no where; the gray is the blah blah we don’t want in our writing.
-We want our writing colorful. We want it full of useful information in each sentence that allows the audience to see everything how we see it.
Very fine Notes, Taco.
However:
-Put statistics into concepts first and then they will have value when the audience reads them.
context
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10/28 Notes
*We force ourselves to see things that are not even there
Riddle/Writing Advice
Paragraph
The Opposite of a black sneaker
Well . . . broccoli is wrong, too. Right?
A black sneaker (like most things) doesn’t have an opposite.
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Class Notes 10/28
Writing metaphors:
Orions belt doesn’t really exist, we can only see it from a fixed perspective. When writing, we have the power to create that perspective.
A road sign that says “just passed scenic views” is completely useless because it informs you at the wrong time. Introduce your topic first, then drop the quote to drive it home.
I decided to award you 4 as soon as I read this:
Orions belt doesn’t really exist, we can only see it from a fixed perspective. When writing, we have the power to create that perspective.
Little did I know there was only one more sentence to read. 🙂
4/3 anyway
10/28
Constellations and Scenic Views (constellations ARE scenic views?)
Visual Rhetoric Rewrite Example
How Much Detail is Enough
Opposite of a Black Sneaker
Brilliant.
This is the first gem that caught my eye:
You cannot explain your thesis in retrospect;
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NOTES
10/28/24
ORION ISN’T REAL
JUST PASSED SCENIC VIEWS
HELP WHEN YOU NEED IT
VISUAL RHETORIC REWRITE
HOW MUCH DETAIL IS ENOUGH?
THE OPPOSITE OF A BLACK SNEAKER
This:
Do not start with two compromised opinions and search for another compromised position
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Class Notes 10/28
Very thorough, Pinkduck. You really put in the time today. 🙂
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Mongoose Notes – 10/28/2024
Yeah, that.
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Class Notes 9/28/24
Very nice
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Class Notes 10/28/24
Arguments are like constellations, choose your “stars” and leave out the rest. Choose a few key data points that support your thesis and leave the rest out. At the end of that your points should come together to create a great argument or picture.
Make sure you tell your reader how to interpret evidence before you introduce it. Throwing evidence at them without introducing the evidence can lead to a confused and uninterested reader or a reader who already formed their opinion based on the evidence you gave them. This leads to a lot of readers who have already made up their mind against you.
Arguments are not on a linear scale. There are different areas and branches. There is no true middle ground. Find the position you want to back and back it all the way. Compromise helps no one in an argument essay.
Well said
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Class notes 10/28.24
OK
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Class Notes – 10/28
Yep
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Class notes 10/28:
Wake Up – The effect is interesting; constellations are pure inventions of our minds, they are arguments of what the positions of the stars mean, Orion is only viewable from two fixed perspectives,
Riddle – new ideas are hard to convey to others because they want to stick to what they already know, start with the claim you are making and not letting the readers come up with own first, provide evidence
Visual Rewrite: Student Model – incorporate analysis after description, don’t correct first impressions just add in analysis that the impression has changed.
Visual Analysis of a Complete Argument – follow the hints dropped, authors could have put anything next to her picked bars, dad didn’t buy life insurance so young man helped her pay for school, never once says buy life insurance; Add important details, focus on the rhetoric of it, include interpretation of what is about, overview at end, what I learned after I watched it with sound and how it changed my interpretation
The Opposite of a Black Sneaker: the opposite is not a sneaker; do not do compromises for the arguments they are not interesting or clear
Assignments:
Portfolio Assignment Visual Rhetoric OCT 29
Portfolio Assignment Visual Rhetoric rewrite NOV 14
Liked your description of the Visual Argument
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Class Notes 10/28
-Orion is an argument as the star come together to make one thing similar to how we are putting claims together to make an argument
-Just Passed Scenic Views: laying out the case is necessary as you don’t want to argue with the readers but propose an argument. It is important to enforce your interpretation of your argument before readers can make their own interpretation. Tell readers what it is they are going to find and that all they have to do is continue reading to be persuaded.
Good. Pushing 4 here.
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Class notes:
Lovely little Purposeful Summaries.
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10/28
Terse but very thoughtful
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Notes. Notes. Notes. Perspective. Perspective. Perspective.
The first thing we saw was supposed to be an optical illusion featuring Vincent Van Goh’s Starry Night. I found this funny because we no longer need to use our imagination or spiral tricks. There have been a number of exhibits, people, artificial intelligences and companies that have animated Stary Night. Here is a quick Google search.
https://vangoghexpo.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKU8ef29OpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNk-7vnw3tM
Next up: Orion’s Belt
We looked at the constellation Orion. Its supposedly some dude people think they can see in the stars. this is once again comical to me because ever since I was a kid, I stared at people like they had 3 eyes when they tried to say they say a bear or whatever in the stary sky! I always found this to be the stupidest thing because of how “forced” it is to connect dots in the sky in some way. It always looked like they were grasping at straws trying to force something to fit. I mean I was kind of sold on “those 3 stars” forming a belt with a decent amount of detail, but then I’m being sold that “this one star over here is and arm”!? Have you ever even completed a connect the dots activity worksheet before bruh?! That is not even close to the level of detail you need to justify it representing an “arm”, or “head” or whatever foolishness they insist on. Ya know what; if one start can represent an arm and one star can represent a head what is to stop me from insisting by “these people’s” own logic that Orion actually has three heads or three arms all represented by this low-detail connect the dots game we are playing. Yea the moral is perspective, but in my opinion this is an example of failing perspective for 3,000 years, and some weird “go with the crowd foolishness.” I mean even the instructor someone called out how crazy it is that people see these stars at constellations in the first place; the sky isn’t flat! I mean unless you are in a video game looking at a skybox…
Off Camera Secrets | Sonic Adventure 2 – Boundary Break, 2:40–3:26
Just Past Good Views.
Seeing signs that say “you just passed us” is so real. I think this makes great comedy material because it is such a weird sign, like do you really think I am going to turn around on a whim if I wasn’t already looking for you? Apparently, the instructor had similar thoughts too. Of course this is a metaphor, the lesson of the story being just like a sign that says something too late, make sure in our writing that we put the claim or assertion out in front and then follow up with supporting statistics or facts. This is formula for effective persuasion! If you try to do this the other way around, and just throw out “random” facts or statistics first without anchoring it, people will try to make their own connections and therefore their own conclusions, and once they form their own conclusions, you now have the obstacle of their own ideas in your way to get them to take your idea.
Visual Analysis of a complete argument.
We watched two advertising videos. One was ok. One was Superbowl worthy! The focus was on a student’s writing describing one of the videos. While the teacher was reading it out loud, I thought I was listening to a Sherlock Holmes audiobook. This student would write something he noticed during a freeze frame, and then write his conclusion about it. And I mean like the tiniest details. Like details and conclusions, I would argue are not even in scope of the commercial. Yea it was fine for the main things, we were supposed to notice and subtle details, but like some if it was, well not something I would include because its supposed to be not noticed, consciously, if that makes any sense. Yea, I know that sounds neglectful, but I would describe the commercial as the author intended us to see it. If the director/editor blurs the background of a scene that does not mean look in the background for detail.
Lastly, we cover Black Vs White arguments.
(But before I even get into the lesson or meaning of this section, let me preface that Black vs White arguments fall under fall under one of the many logical fallacies:
The Black and White Fallacy | Idea Channel | PBS Digital Studios))
I would also like to point out that one side could pad their demands to make it more extreme so that a “compromise” will be exactly what they originally wanted. Take bartering, over a trading card perhaps:
Let’s say you want $10 for it. So, you ask someone interested in buying the card what they are offering, they say $1. Ok, so now you have to walk them to the price you want of $10 via bartering. You need to inflate the asking price to the extreme, ask for $20. This way the other person walks their price up to $4, then you walk down to $19, they offer a little more at $5, you bring your price down to $18. Etc, etc, until you meet them in the middle at $10. You pretend it was a compromise, but in reality, you got exactly what you wanted all along! You didn’t really compromise at all! All because you made your offer so extreme. News alert: you can do this in politics too.
Ok back to the lesson, to add complexity to this Black vs White concept, we looked at the issue of gray, or a space between black and white. “One side always loses in Black and White arguments.” If one group of people want no guns in school and the other want guns for everyone one may say “Let’s go in the middle, compromise, let’s have some teachers receive guns.” Who wins if this compromise goes through; the people that want guns, or the people that do not want guns? The people that want guns win this. No guns mean no guns. Giving teachers guns is just one step closer to every teacher receiving guns.
We must not get trapped in the idea of gray, we must choose a side and argue for it!
I would like to have attended this class.
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Trying to communicate as mochas they can and hint at things so that view pays close attention.
The man is paying for a prime for an investment that he will. never get to witness
Argument visual represented through sneakers ideas don’t follow through a line they are circular. Choose black or white never choses grey you will lose any power to argue any point
OK
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10/28
We begin by discussing the Orion constellation as a reminder that what we perceive is merely a matter of perspective. If we were situated differently in the universe, we wouldn’t recognize Orion instead, we’d probably see an entirely different star organization. Many concepts only come to life when we connect the dots. We play a crucial role in defining our world and its relationships, and this approach is reflected in our writing. Especially when we encounter significant facts or evidence, we have the power to choose where to position them in our work. Our goal is to integrate this information in a way that allows our audience to perceive everything through our lens.
Then we talk about a very interesting riddle on a road sign saying “Just Passed Scenic Views”.Now for signs to be both information and crucial to road safety this isn’t exactly any of those things but it is a good lesson for how we must remember that the purpose of our writing is to clarify our ideas and guide our audience toward the beliefs we wish to convey. To see things from our point and time and let people understand that this is our idea and if you interpret it any other way let me tell you once more.
Afterward, we are then speaking on a concept called the “Opposite of a Black Sneaker”. Saying that when determining our place on the argumentative spectrum, it’s unproductive to focus solely on one extreme or the other. There is no clear opposite to our writing, and avoiding the middle ground is often characterized by ambiguity and hinders our progress. Emphasizing this gray area within your text often leads to uninspired content that fails to engage the reader and shows how we need to aspire to something out the left field for our writing to be vibrant and compelling, filled with meaningful information in every sentence, this approach ensures that our audience perceives the world as we do.
Gorgeous. For this alone:
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Class notes
True enough
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10/28/24
What Happened: Wasn’t In Class That Day
What I Got:
What I still have Questions about:
2 for the effort
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Notes for October 28, 9:30 am class
Starting off with constellations!
Orion is like, the constellation
Constellations – invention of human imagination
Similar to the topic
Large amount of detail for a topic (stars in the sky)
You CHOOSE which ones are part of the pattern, which are in the argument, what make up the constellation
They’re otherwise unrelated, until we are told it IS related.
Constellations work only really in ONE perspective, or, two, if you are on the total opposite side of the constellation, exactly as far away as we are now, at the same angle of view.
“Just passed scenic views”
Organize paragraphs + evidence w/ material that they don’t know how to interpret
By the time they’ve gone through the evidence, they’ve already interpreted it how they want to, you are arguing against them
Better to lay out the interpretation first, and then back it up
Fact – Fact – tell reader what to think – interpretation
But, maybe i’d agree if i knew what in the world you were talking about in the first place
Define, fact, back up.
Start with the conclusion!!! Give them the evidence AFTERWARDS
We don’t have to wonder about the point of the argument now. We know what the claims are, and we then know what’s going on on and how the writer GOT to those claims.
“Admit”
Value judgment, something you don’t want to tell but know it’s true.
“A brilliant alternative”
Tell the readers what they’ll find
The evidence that will back up the claim
And alllllll they gotta do, is read ahead to find what they need
GO TO THE ROWAN CAMBELL LIBRARY FOR INFORMATION
RAAAAAH
How much detail is too much detail?
Always add more at least, however in the case of a shirt color perhaps against a sea of uniforms, that would be important. Or a differing between two objects that are isolated and focused on
Concentrate on the rhetoric half of this
Why were visuals chosen to persuade of what?
Meeting in the middle between two extremes, a compromise
Do you really want your thesis to go gray? That pleases nobody
ARgue for one thing or another, not a compromise. Don’t start with a compromise, and dont’ settle for a compromise.
Someone still loses in a compromise, and someone still loses in a black and white arguement
Sounds like you were narrating to yourself during class 🙂
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Class Notes for 28 October 2024
Well, mostly
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Class Notes 10/28/2024
2 for the effort
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Class Notes 10/28
Arguments aren’t always linear opposites,
Yeah.
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10/28
Gloves and shoes are both still garment. How can a garment be the opposite of a garment?
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