Class 27: WED DEC 04

Feedback Workshop

You’ve been my favorite class of students, ever. Honest. 🙂

I’m pretty sure I’ve been your Favorite Professor, too.

Feedback, Grade Please, and Regrade Please requests have been piling up over the last 10 days or so, and I’ve been doing my best to keep up (and nonetheless falling behind).

Today, for our last class of the semester before the Portfolio Doublecheck, MON DEC 09, we’ll dip into the Feedback Please queue and do some in-class onscreen feedback for all students who would like to benefit from that exercise.

  1. If that sounds useful to you, stick around.
  2. If that sounds like a waste of your time, go do something more productive.
  3. If you’d like me to handle YOUR Feedback request live, text me your Assignment name and Username (such as Definition Rewrite—SkibidySigma).

Come to class MON DEC 09 for your Portfolio Doublecheck. If you fail to do so, you will not qualify for an end-of-semester Grade Conference. And if that happens, you will waive the right to dispute your final grade.

12 Responses to Class 27: WED DEC 04

  1. taco491's avatar taco491 says:

    Class Notes: 12/4/24

    A bit of informal notes today

    My river is running high = anything more and we will flood. In other words, will cry.

    • Great figurative language I have never heard. Definitely will be using this in the future.

    Procrastination is in everyone including professor. I am definitely a procrastinator when it comes to writing. haha

    Feedback Please:

    -Say what we mean, it helps to get the audience hooked.

    -Make your reader want to care about your writing, with extra useless words, it draws them away.

    -Lying could help keep the reader, but don’t do it to much. Mainly want to do this to hook the audience.

    It is so weird that a computer can judge itself to make something look real. It is wild how far technology has come. AI in general is scary.

    -Robust verbs are very important because it helps to get to the point/explain our writing.

    -3 things to do in the first paragraph of Rebuttal: identify the authors thesis, identify the contrary opinion of worthy opponent, declare(firmly) that opponent is dead wrong and explain why.

    -We won’t sound like we are saying the same thing over and over if we mix up the wording we are using.

  2. GamersPet's avatar GamersPet says:

    Reviewing other students Feedback Please live in class.

    The first example is from SkibibtySigma for the definition rewrite where the introduction is very wordy and has a lot of syllables. The problem was telling the positive, and a negative in the first two sentence’s where it was hard to determine which argument the author is going for. The author is missing real-life examples to help readers to prove his/her argument. Another note is that the author wasn’t able to explain certain words like GAN where us readers assumed that we know what that means. The author shouldn’t put citations at all.

    The Robust for Yardie

    Don’t state the problem that is followed up by the verb is in the first sentence. You can start stating a subject, and then follow up with the problem. (Helps with the Definitive Argument)

    Rebuttal Rewrite – imaginary.persona

    Identify the thesis argument of your claims, state the opposing side of your argument, state your opponents claims, and state the problem of your opponents claims by declaring your argument is right. No citations.

  3. phoenixxxx23's avatar phoenixxxx23 says:

    Class Notes-phoenixxxx23

    -The reader should care!

    -You build a fire in the corner —>the room becomes hot

    -be simple building causal connection, be specific

    -If you introduce something, (like GANs) you should provide an explanation of the concept, not assuming your reader knows what that means

    -The problem is the issues—>I am out!

    -help with the addiction – weak verb, empty language

    -always go for ROBUST verbs

    -When you get to the heart of the paragraph, its essence, you can always add things

    -You should find the DNA of the paragraph

    -You can mix up language, but you should never fail the balance

  4. ChefRat's avatar ChefRat says:

    Class Notes 12.4.24

    Last Lecture 😢

    • If you want feedback on any more items, text professor with details.
    • Monday will be a portfolio checks, technical work etc.
    • good bye favorite professor! 😟😟😟

    Example Gone Over

    • One main takeaway – be quick and efficient with your claims. Do not ramble about positive and negative contrasts, it bores the reader with readers, it doesn’t make them think, they won’t care.
    • 3 paragraphs in and no example from the author has been provided, go help the readers relate.
    • Does the reader need to be told “crime is a problem”? A blanket statement won’t get your reader engaged.
    • Suppose “addicts are willing to go to any lengths,” you do not want your reader to come to their own conclusion about this. GET IN THEIR FACE and TELL THEM “WHAT” they are doing, why it’s wrong, etc.

  5. Starfire04.blog's avatar Starfire04.blog says:

    12/4/24 class notes

    • your reader should be captivated by your paper
    • convince them to care about your argument
    • the goal is to get the audience to see your argument as the right argument
    • we go over cultural appropriation with Percy Jackson and Greek mythology
    • We went over Robofrog’s rebuttal argument for feedback
    • Monday is portfolio checks
    • if you want feedback text professor with what you want feedback on

  6. pineapple488's avatar pineapple488 says:

    Class notes:

    • My river is running high. I’m gonna start saying that.
    • Don’t use a question as a title, you already know the answer, that’s your thesis. Giving a reader a question will make them answer it in their head, which makes you lose control of the argument.
    • You want your rebuttal opponent to be credible. “Some people would argue” is weak. Nobody cares that you can refute “some people,” it’s more impressive to refute someone specific who knows what they’re talking about.
    • There is no benefit from starting vague and getting more specific. Just be specific from the get go.
    • A rebuttal argument should have a point of view, refute someone else’s point of view, and the reader should be able to tell which point of view is yours.
    • You want to promote your point of view and no one else’s.
  7. iloveme5's avatar iloveme5 says:

    Class notes 12/4/24

    • I absolutely agree with hearing people chew. I always correct my sister when they do it. I don’t like eating ASMR but I do enjoy watching car detailing ASMR. It is VERY satisfying.
    • We will miss you professor. I hope you have an amazing and relaxing retirement🥲. Travel, start new hobbies, and have fun.
    • Never use a question as a title. It means you don’t have an answer.
    • “Some people would argue” is not a good way to start.
    • I was not surprised to how critical you are professor! You are very critical to our work but it helps us and improves our writing.

  8. student12121's avatar student12121 says:

    Class Notes 12/4/24

    Don’t make your title a rhetorical question.

    An introduction to a rebuttal should; have a point of view, dispute a different point of view, and make sure the reader knows the point of view that is yours

  9. Robofrog's avatar Robofrog says:

    Class Notes 12/4

    Feedback Workshop:

    Rebuttal – don’t use a question for title, change 1st sentence, it is weak, identify person, reverse definition, reuses some stuff to create new story, use her, do not be vague, disproving Gokli’s argument, appropriation means to steal something from other culture doing harm to them, retelling in different medium, modern Greeks no longer consider them to be gods, can’t steal something that is already given away, make sure to add ‘modern’ where necessary, not many people going on record on their opinion, break up long sentences, change second argument, borrowing stuff to create new story is not appropriation, changeup 3rd argument, extremely stringy sentences, Replace with appropriation expert maybe if there is time, intro should clearly identify your point of view, opponent’s POV

    Assignments:

    MON DEC 09 for Portfolio Doublecheck

  10. loverofcatsandmatcha's avatar loverofcatsandmatcha says:

    12.4.24

    • Do not title your work with a question, because the readers will decide for themselves, and you have now lost control of their persuasion
    • Overall, today was an insightful class. I enjoyed seeing the thought process behind the feedback we receive. It feels less blunt when the feedback is done verbally, and tone is better conveyed.
    • Stop using sentence fragments. You know better. Unless you have a purpose. Use very sparingly. Haha, I just used sentence fragments. With purpose.
  11. Burnbook04's avatar Burnbook04 says:

    Class Notes 12/4/24

    • live review feedback ( if wanted )

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