A Riddle about Fate

“Everything Happens for a Reason.”

Does that quote indicate a belief in Fate? Consider the following scenarios.

  1. Jay causes a traffic accident that severely wounds another driver and her child but spares Jay any injury and barely even damages his car. He is however arrested on suspicion of recklessness following an investigation of the accident scene. After a night in jail, Jay has to face his father, Zed, who has come to bail him out. Before he agrees to pay, Zed asks his son for an explanation. “Everything happens for a reason, son,” he says to Jay.
  2. Kay lies in her hospital bed clinging to life. She had been drinking heavily the night of the accident, while driving her daughter home. Deeply shamed by her behavior and buoyed by the outpouring of love and concern from her friends who visit her bedside, Kay reconnects with her life and family and resolves to quit her irresponsible behavior. Suffering intense pain from her injuries, she nevertheless tells her friend, “Everything happens for a reason.”
  3. Jay has no contact with Kay during her hospitalization, but the death of Kay’s daughter fills him with guilt and remorse. He sees the accident as an indictment of his recklessness but senses the hand of God at work in sparing him. He doesn’t change his behavior in any way, but ever after believes that whatever occurs in his life is God’s will, over which he has no control and for which he has no responsibility. “Everything happens for a reason,” is how he describes the human condition.
  4. Zed regrets having raised a son as irresponsible as Jay and resolves to do a better job with his daughter Dee. Together they form an organization called Teens at the Scene that promotes safe teenage driving, accident prevention, and emergency responsiveness. After years of labor, they take the group national, score big, and become very influential, as well as rich. Zed proposes a toast to their good fortune, but Dee replies, “This was no accident; everything happens for a reason, Dad.”

Exercise

Regarding the four declarations that “everything happens for a reason,” in a Reply below,

  • Number your answers 1-4.
  • Identify which of the four declarations are expressions of a belief in fate.
  • For those that are not, describe what they do declare.

22 Responses to A Riddle about Fate

    1. I would say this is a show of fate, as it points out how even though the other drivers sustained great injuries, Jay and his car walked away from the accident with no incident. Jay spent the night in jail afterwards and when his father came to bail him out but before he does, wants to know what happened. This to me implies he wants to know the lesson this taught his son and how he sees this incident so he can determine if bailing him out is the right choice or not.
    2. This also seems like a show of fate, had Kay not been drinking and driving, the accident that killed her daughter and almost took her life may not have even occurred. That being said, She takes this as an opportunity to reconnect with friends and family and stop’s behaving irresponsibly, turning herself around and living a better life.
    3. This does not seem to show fate to me, but a belief that everything will just work out because it’s God’s will. Jay has not changed his behavior and just lives life as he always has, but expecting God to take care of things for him because “everything happens for a reason”.
    4. This also does not seem to be a show of fate to me, but a show of hard work paying off. After the accident, Zed put in the effort to make sure his daughter Dee didn’t go down the same path as Jay, and decided to build up an organization from the ground that ends up becoming quite influential. Dee’s use of “everything happens for a reason” here just seems to echo her fathers sentiment, instead of actually showing something fateful occurring.
  1. phoenixxxx23's avatar phoenixxxx23 says:
    1. Belief in Fate: Another chance to reconsider life behaviour, since he was not killed in this accident
    2. Belief in Fate: the sacrifice she paid was enough to change her life
    3. Belief in Fate: Our fate is in God’s hands
    4. Belief in Fate: we can turn our pain and anger into light
    1. Is a belief in fate because zed seems to be implying that his sons consequences have meaning behind them.
    2. Kay is using her accident as rationalization for changing her life but it is not fate.
    3. Jays story reflects faith because he’s saying that god had a plan for them suggesting that the actins unfolded as they were meant to.
    4. Not faith because they’re just assigning meaning to their experiences
  2. lobsterman's avatar lobsterman says:
    1. This is a belief in fate, “everything happens for a reason” suggests he believes that this was destined to happen and that there is some divine plan in place.
    2. This is a belief in fate as well, she believes that what happened was destined and that it’s in order to teach her a lesson about her lifestyle.
    3. This seems like fate but it’s also putting the responsibility on God and his almighty will, which might allow someone to not make any efforts into changing and putting the outcome of their life into Gods hands.
    4. This might not be a direct belief in fate and just a way of realzing how far they came from their past mistakes
  3. MAD ClTY's avatar MAD ClTY says:
    1. Is a representation of fate as for he was liable for the accident even if he wasn’t the one drunk.
    2. Kay story more a circle of guilt for her action of being drunk she kill her daughter. Now connecting back to reality as she begins to find her she begins to take action in her own life
    3. Isn’t a representation of rather an argument of Fate is used in a religious setting. Used to describe Gods Will. Jay doesn’t change behavior for his action
    4. Is a representation of Fate for his son action he teaches his daughter better so that she wouldn’t be apart of incident like this one. In doing this he receive the fruit of reward.
  4. ChefRat's avatar ChefRat says:
    1. Show of fate, the father needs no explanation before placing the cause of this into a higher being.
    2. Not a show of fate, the actions and feelings she has are of her own fruition.
    3. Not a show of fate, seems like the responsibility has just been shifted, but the decisions he made are of his own.
    4. Show of fate, directly placing the cause of their success into a higher being hands
  5. Bagel&Coffee's avatar Bagel&Coffee says:

    While reading this I had the revelation that “Everything happens for a reason” could mean different things to different people. Although I mostly hear it in hippie, religious, a spiritual circles, it is conceivable that it could also be said by a man of science, such as when rationalizing in a “haunted house situation” situation for example.

    1.) I believe this usage of “Everything happens for a reason.” (EHFAR) to be more along the literal lines of explanation, seeking to understand the events of the night in chronological order. Not so much in the spiritual way or way of trying to assign meaning.

    2.) This usage of EHFAR seems to be more interested in examining meaning or finding a silver lining to the incident. Clearly the meaning being implied is now a newfound closeness to family and friends, as well as a resolve to stop drinking to improve her life. This is in the “fate” or “grand plan” group.

    3.) This one quite explicitly states “god’s will”. That is about self-evident as you can get to applying meaning to one’s life over events. This is in the “fate” or “grand plan” group.

    4.) Once again, the invocation of EHFAR be Dee here is of implying a better future, or that some grand plan or fate is at work to improve their lives; specifically, the Teens on the Scene. Zed toasts to good fortune (AKA good luck), while Dee argues this is not luck but fate (AKA the luck vs fate debate), and it is some grater power at work to improve their lives.

  6. KFury205's avatar KFury205 says:

    1.This scenario shows how the father is concerned about his sons personal habits and believes that Jay didn’t just cause the crash on his own merits. The father knows what may cause a crash and could be very well versed into what his son is up to on a daily basis. This shows a strong sense of belief that an accident of sometime was bound to happen and the father would be ready when it did considering his interest on how the crash occurred.

    2.This shows a very wake up to reality type of moment for the phrase “everything happens for a reason”. Kay waking up in the hospital bed next to her friends after the death of her daughter and knowing it was her own fault. It wakes Kay up in a bad way that what type of person she is, a drunken mess that never thinks before she acts. But the fact that she realizes her mistakes is a trophy in of itself. Realizing you have a problem is one step into fixing it.

    3.This shows a very spiritual belief in the phrase as if its all in a religious figures guiding hand that the crash happened and that what occurred afterwards was his plan. As much as Jay understands how terrible it may sound, he believes and trusts in his god to have it be apart of his plan.

    4.This shows the prevention of the phrase as the father, prepares his daughter to not experience the same type of accident that occurred with her brother. Even making a foundation out of the very issue is a show of wanting to twist the Phrase “Everything happens for a reason”. A very sentiment way for wanting to manipulate fate to serve those who wish to continuing seeing the ones they love.

  7. Softball1321's avatar Softball1321 says:
    1. I believe this one is considered a belief in fate. Although Jay was in a major car accident, he endured little to no injuries, while the driver of the other car sustained major injuries. Considering Jay left the scene and ended up in jail for the possibility of reckless driving, his dad was able to eventually bail him out.
    2. I also believe this one is a belief in fate. Kay was driving while intoxicated with her daughter in the car. This is clearly a serious problem Kay sustained. Although, if Kay never gotten behind the wheel while intoxicated, this accident may have never happened. Unfortunately, Kay’s daughter passed in the accident, which caused Kay to reconnect with her life and family and change her negative ways. This accident shows that everything happens for a reason.
    3. This is not a belief in fate, considering Jay is acknowledging the fact that everything happens for a reason, such as the accident. There is not a specific scene in here that proves everything happens for a reason.
    4. I believe this could be a belief in fate. This horrific accident allowed Jay and his family to raise awareness on reckless driving and promote safety. They were able to create an organization called “Teens at the Scene,” that does this.
  8. GamersPet's avatar GamersPet says:
    1. This one tells us the cause of Jay’s car accident, and how Jay got out unscathed. His father, Zed, who would want an explanation as to what caused the traffic accident which gave me an impression that Jay didn’t fully explain or told the truth of what actually occurred. That’s when Zed declared that there’s got to be a reason why the traffic accident occurred. To me this section doesn’t give me the impression of belief in fate.
    2. This section does give me an impression of fate because Kay felt responsible and suffered the consequences of her irresponsible behavior where she felt blessed that she was still alive.
    3. Jay had an interesting moral belief that at first he felt remorse and guilt of the death of Kay’s daughter, but later claim no responsibility. He felt that God was in control of “fate” and how Jay just accepts everything that happen so far.
    4. It was a long term investment on Zed side where he felt regretful to raised an irresponsible son. The quote “After years of labor,” Zed had become rich and prosper cause of the act of his son, and his daughter, Dee, claiming that it was meant to be that Jay would become irresponsible, and how Jay’s action would help Zed to become who he is and what he does today.
  9. taco491's avatar taco491 says:
    1. I think this shows a belief in fate. I think this because Jay and his car was able to come out of his crash completely undamaged, but was arrested for his recklessness. This fate is for him to learn his lesson, even though nothing happened to Jay. With Jay being there at the time of this accident was fate being shown he was suppose to be there.
    2. I think this shows a belief in fate as well. Kay laying in bed suffering intense pain is a result of her causing an accident because of drunk driving. The fate shown is that if Kay was not drinking while driving her daughter, she would have been unharmed and her daughter would still be there.
    3. I think this seems like a fate, but I think it has more to do with Gods will. He is putting responsibility on God, which allows him to not make any changes to his life because he believes God will do and lead him to where ever he needs to me.
    4. I don’t think this is a belief in Fate. I think it just shows that they worked hard to get to where they are today. They have this good fortune because they formed organizations and worked hard.d
  10. GOAT81's avatar GOAT81 says:
    • I don’t think this is fate because Zed is teaching a lesson or calling for contemplation. Instead of feeling like fate will fill him, he nearly sounds like he believes in karma. By saying that, Zed is asking Jay to reflect on his previous decisions.
    • I’d say fate, because Kay seemed to view the accident as an event that was born for something better, almost as a transformation factor in her life. She sees the pain and suffering as part of a wider plan to implement her own change.
    • I believe this is fate. Jay sees the outcome as a demonstration of divine will, meaning that everything was predetermined. He uses his believe in fate to justify not accepting responsibility or modifying his behavior, viewing life events as beyond his control.
    • It does not Seem’s fate. Dee’s statement shows her belief in intentional behavior above fate. She recognizes the hard work, decisions, and effort that went into the organization’s success. Her declaration is about the thoughtful preparation and dedication that led to their success.
  11. lil.sapph's avatar lil.sapph says:
    • I wouldn’t say this shows fate as it is saying everything happens for a reason as in what is the reason that it happened, the cause before.
    • I would say this somewhat fate as she’s saying It happened for a reason the reason being something that would come out of it, if anything a lesson too her to be better and reconnect, it was fate for her to fix her life by losing her daughter 
    • I would say this is a show of fate in the sense of believing everything goes according to God’s plan, taking the situation and consequences directly out of his hands, putting it in fate’s.  
    • I would say this is fate as well, as it is saying the cause of their success came after the incident of the car accident. It was fate that it happened and it came from that incident. Saying that his accident had an impact on the future and is the reason for success. 
  12. Bruinbird's avatar Bruinbird says:
    1. This one seems to be some kind of declaration of a belief in fate. Although nothing comes of this directly, there’s also no outcome of this aside from Jay being bailed out. It seems more it’s used there in place of trying to come out with a real reason.
    2. This one is a belief in fate, something bad happened, the accident, but as a result of that, she reconnects with family, and turns her life around. This declaration is a belief in fate, because she can recognize what came of the events.
    3. Though it’s a statement about the human condition, he reflects on what happened, and does nothing about it, assuming the hand of God will do what it wills. This is not a belief in fate, a true declaration of everything happens for a reason. This is a crappy excuse to continue an irresponsible and care free life.
    4. After such a chain of events, the daughter makes this declaration, the organization gains fame, helps many people, and they grow in influence. All because of one accident many years prior. This is a belief in fate, because looking back at the one event that started this chain, it did in fact happen for a reason.
  13. loverofcatsandmatcha's avatar loverofcatsandmatcha says:
    1. I do not believe this is a declaration of fate. I hardly think the phrase works in the context of the sentence. The conditions for him bailing his son out of jail were for his son to tell him what happened, so when he says “everything happens for a reason,” he means it literally. His son was arrested, and he is legitimately asking him for the reason.
    2. I do not believe that this is a declaration of fate, but more of an acknowledgement of her horrible situation, and a wake up call. “Everything happens for a reason” means, in this context, that the car accident happening was for a reason; the reason was to wake her up from her reality and make a change. That is not fate working, that is just her turning her life around in the aftermath of a tragic event.
    3. This does seem like a declaration of fate. He is not changing his behavior, and instead believes that whatever is going to happen will happen, and his actions will not impact what is already guaranteed to happen. He does not see the point in changing his ways, since it is “in God’s will.”
    4. This does seem like a declaration of fate. Dee refuses to accept that is simply “good fortune” that led to their success, but a destined victory that was set from the moment they had started their project.
  14. student12121's avatar student12121 says:
    1. I think this is a show of fate because he is telling his son that it happened so that he would learn and grow from it.
    2. I think this is a show of fate because she shows a complete belief in fate and acts on it.
    3. This is not be a show of fate in general but is a show of faith. His faith in God is solidified and he now acts accordingly
    4. This is a show of fate although not one I would agree with. She says that the accident happened so that they could save others and have prosperity they otherwise would not have had. Personally I would have said it was just a product of their hard work but she clearly believes in it and is showing her belief.
  15. SkibidySigma's avatar SkibidySigma says:

    Zed’s statement to Jay – This is an expression of belief in fate. Zed suggests that the accident and consequences were part of a larger reason, implying that events are beyond human control and have predetermined purposes.

    Kay’s statement in the hospital – This does not express belief in fate. Instead, Kay’s declaration reflects personal growth and learning. She interprets the accident as an opportunity for self-reflection and a reason to change her life, indicating that she sees meaning rather than fate.

    Jay’s belief after the accident – This is an expression of belief in fate. Jay believes that everything in his life is God’s will, implying a lack of personal agency or accountability, as though his actions and their consequences are beyond his control.

    Dee’s statement to Zed – This does not express belief in fate. Dee’s declaration implies that their success was intentional and due to their own actions. She believes that hard work and purpose led to their outcome, rather than an inevitable, fated path.

  16. Robofrog's avatar Robofrog says:

    1) This is not a belief in fate. Zed is declaring that his son’s actions played a role in what happened.

      2) This is not a belief in fate. Kay is declaring that choices have consequences.

      3) This is a belief in fate. Jay takes no responsibility for his actions.

      4) This is not a belief in fate. Dee is declaring that everything that happened is a result of their hard work and dedication.

    1. Mongoose449's avatar Mongoose449 says:

      1 – I would say that this doesn’t show Fate being implied. The father asks his son specifically why he got into an accident, rather than stating that this was going to happen no matter what, as this was some pre-determined event destined to occur.

      2 – I find that this is Fate. Substance abuse, driving with her daughter, and it seemingly a prevalent problem most likely caused this to happen. It’s an event that was fated to occur because of her actions previously, it was destined to happen eventually with the path she was following.

      3 – I find this is not fate. Jay himself sees the event as something of Divine decree, yet he does nothing to change besides continuing on with his life. He gains no epiphany besides his lack thereof any responsibility or guilt in his life, a dangerous prospect to be sure. Perhaps this may be fate at play to then cause something else to happen in the future.

      4 – I find this an expression of fate, especially since at the very end the daughter decides to declare that “everything happens for a reason.”, with this implying that it was an event fated to occur because of previous actions taken before that event.

    2. student1512's avatar student1512 says:

      1)This paragraph is a show of fate as Jay was left unscathed meanwhile others were injured. More obviously, his fathers claims “everything happens for a reason”.

      2)Not a show of fate, as she’s taking responsibility of her actions and shortcomings. From this, she is making the conscious choice to change.

      3)This would be a show of fate as Jay comments that god is sparing him, that god knows the way. In which case he is taking the fault from himself and placing it on a fateful figure.

      4)Not a show of fate as both the daughter and the father worked hard to make their organization what is was. They both know the hard work put into what they’ve made, and it was not simply due to fate.

    3. pineapple488's avatar pineapple488 says:
      1. This example is not a belief in fate. The father is asking his son for an explanation of what caused the accident because he believes that he caused it through his actions, such as reckless driving, not because it was “meant” or “fated” to happen.
      2. I think this is an example of a belief in fate. Kay believes that the accident happened as a sign that she should not have been drinking and driving, and to inspire her to turn her life around for the better. She knows that her drinking was not what caused the accident, but she thinks it was fated to happen in order to teach her a lesson.
      3. This is an example of a belief in fate. Jay believes that everything happens because of God’s will and he has no power to change the outcome of anything, meaning it is controlled by fate.
      4. I don’t think this example shows a belief in fate because Dee believes that their organization was successful due to the years of labor and hard work they poured into it, not because of a higher power or fate.
    4. iloveme5's avatar iloveme5 says:
      1. I think this is a belief of fate because of the father’s words which were
        Everything happens for a reason.” The son’s accident didn’t kill him or the other drivers so maybe he chose those words to have his son understand that his accident happened for a reason and he is alive for a reason.
      2. This is an example of fate because she survived the accident, quit her problem, and also reconnected with her family. It was fate that it would happen this way and only fate would reconnect her and her family.
      3. This is a belief of fate because Jay believes anything and everything that has happened in his life is because of God’s will. God’s has control of everything that happens in our lives and our fate. Jay’s fate was to ultimately get into that accident for a reason.
      4. I would say this is fate as well because of the accident they were able to form this organization and help stop future car accidents with teens. Only fate would open that door because if the accident had never happened all of the consequences that happened after would have never occurred.

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